"O L-RD, Who are my power and my strength and my refuge in the day of trouble, to You nations will come from the ends of the earth and say, 'Only lies have our fathers handed down to us, emptiness in which there is nothing of any avail! Can a man make gods for himself, and they are no gods? 'Therefore, behold I let them know; at this time I will let them know My power and My might, and they shall know that My Name is the L-RD".
Jeremiah 16:19-21

Was the Crucifixion a Fraud?

May 2, 2013

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Jesus, the Son of God, is the ‘2nd person of the Godhead’. “God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, the three in one! ” They are one in the same God. He came to Earth to save mankind, by His Supreme sacrifice, and atone for our sins! And be raised up from the dead.

I’ll summarize this.

1. Jesus is God (from “They are one in the same God”).
2. Jesus was sacrificed.
3. Jesus was raised from the dead.

If these things were true then the claim that God sacrificed his son is a fraud, it is quite meaningless.

Sacrifice. Permanent loss of something of immense value.

If I sacrificed my daughter, whom I love dearly, so that many others could live, and with no hope and with a belief that I would never see my daughter again, then that would be a true and tragic sacrifice.

Christianity makes a massive issue out of God sacrificing his son to save mankind. In fact it is the essential basis for Christianity, the alleged atonement. And as Loone says, a supreme sacrifice. But did God really make a sacrifice; was the claim at least equal to that of me sacrificing my daughter?

It is not difficult to see that God made no such sacrifice, and certainly nothing that could come remotely close to what I would see as a true sacrifice.

Proof 1 

1. God is immortal; he cannot die.
2. Jesus is God (from assumptions already acknowledged).
3. Therefore Jesus cannot die; i.e. he cannot die through sacrifice.

Proof 2 

1. Sacrifice means a permanent loss.
2. Jesus was raised from the dead.
3. Therefore if Jesus came back then he wasn’t permanently lost.
4. If he wasn’t permanently lost then there was no sacrifice.

Proof 3 

1. For a sacrifice to have meaning then the entity making the sacrifice must experience suffering at the loss, as a human would suffer if they sacrificed their loved child.

2. God is omniscient; has perfect knowledge of all future events.

3. If Jesus died then God would know that Jesus would be back 3 days later.

4. If God knew that Jesus would be back very shortly then he would not have experienced any meaningful degree of suffering.

5. If God did not suffer then the emotionalism and alleged sadness of his loss is a fraud, it simply could not happen.

Conclusion.

From these simple syllogisms we can see very clearly that the crucifixion and the alleged suffering of God’s loss is a fraud and completely meaningless. And if the crucifixion is meaningless then the whole of Christianity is meaningless.

Does everyone agree?

http://www.sciforums.com/OT-vs-NT-Inerrancy-t-17716.html

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